1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:17,000 You know that we came from France especially for you. 2 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:24,000 The reason for our visit is that your book has been distributed to many institutions in France. 3 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,000 What did you want your book to explain? 4 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,000 There should be clear, scientific and reasonable evidence for evolution. 5 00:00:33,001 --> 00:00:35,001 If there isn't any, then evolution doesn't exist. 6 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Claims and allegations that evolution happened by imaginary mechanisms, 7 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:46,000 by some kind of miracles adding up by hundreds, that's not scientific. 8 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,000 When it's asked how the first cell emerged, the answer is that it emerged as a sort of miracle. 9 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,000 When we ask, ''Can a protein emerge by itself?'' it's said that it also formed as a sort of miracle. 10 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,000 We ask, ''How does the cell get its shape? 11 00:01:02,001 --> 00:01:04,001 How does it starts to move to a given target?'' 12 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,000 the explanation is also ''A miracle.'' 13 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,000 The theory of evolution is a religion made up of hundreds of millions of miracles. 14 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,000 The Earth is being excavated everywhere. 15 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Even in Istanbul, when we dig in the earth, 16 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:27,000 we come across the fossils of plants and animals, and we see that they have not changed. 17 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:33,000 There is no need to deceive humanity, 18 00:01:34,001 --> 00:01:37,001 to fool people as if they were children. 19 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,000 There is no point in making unreasonable explanations. 20 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,000 One might not say, necessarily, 21 00:01:44,001 --> 00:01:46,001 that God created those organisms, but it is clear that some Power did. 22 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,000 A person might not believe in God. 23 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Let him call it anything, according to his religion or his belief, 24 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,000 but the existence of a Creator--Superior Power--is clearly seen. 25 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,000 In my belief system, the name of this Creator Power is God. 26 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Darwinists claim that there are intermediate fossils 27 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,000 between today's species and the fossils of creatures that lived in the past. 28 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,000 And do you think that this assertion might be dangerous? 29 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 There is not a single intermediate fossil. 30 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Let them bring one to France, 31 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 so we can all see it together. I will come too. 32 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Let them bring it in front of the Eiffel Tower, call the press, 33 00:02:36,001 --> 00:02:38,001 and let us see what this fossil looks like. 34 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Well, do you think that Darwinists, 35 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,000 not sharing the same opinions as you, 36 00:02:50,001 --> 00:02:53,001 might be dangerous for the future? 37 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 They may not be aware of it. 38 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,000 When suggesting this theory, they did not say, ''Let us create chaos and destroy humanity.'' 39 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,000 But unknowingly, they made a weapon that happens to be 40 00:03:07,001 --> 00:03:11,001 very destructive for mankind. 41 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:20,000 Then, can we say that the Darwinists unknowingly used such a weapon 42 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:29,000 that is actually quite dangerous for humanity? 43 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:35,000 I don't think that the Darwinists, let alone Darwin himself, 44 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:43,000 estimated the damage the theory would wreak. 45 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,000 But the Darwinist philosophy is the source of the First and Second World Wars. 46 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,000 Darwinist philosophy is the source of Imperialism and of dialectic philosophy. 47 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:00,000 In that case, what is the basic difference between Darwinism and your idea? 48 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Creation. 49 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,000 I suggest that all life forms are created. And I suggest that a Supreme Mind has 50 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:17,000 power over all creatures, and that there is a fantastic system down to their molecule structures. 51 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Even if we examine a tiny creature from the sea, 52 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,000 the microscopic materials inside 53 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 display an amazing superior structure. 54 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Each organism has million bits of information, genetic codes 55 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:41,000 stored inside. Not something that can occur by coincidence. 56 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,000 To store a huge genetic code in a tiny creature that can hardly be seen under a microscope. 57 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 That can't happen by chance. 58 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,000 If saying, ''I am against Darwinism'' can get one fired from a university, 59 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:01,000 then we can't speak of science. 60 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,000 A scientist must be free to say without hesitation 61 00:05:06,001 --> 00:05:08,001 that he is against Darwinism, 62 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:16,000 just as he should be free to say: ''Yes, I support Darwinism.'' 63 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:22,000 He should be free to say either. 64 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:28,000 It's not fair being unilateral either. 65 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:42,000 So, you think that the scientists are wrong. 66 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:53,000 That's possible, but why does this pose a danger for humanity? 67 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:00,000 In Nazi Germany, the prevalent belief was that, 68 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:06,000 ''The weak will perish and the strong will survive.'' 69 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:16,000 Hitler completely applied Darwin's theory to humanity. 70 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,000 The prevalent idea was that 71 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,000 the Aryan race--the German race-- was superior. Hitler claimed that other races were not evolved, 72 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,000 and that they were merely ape-like beings 73 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:34,000 and he claimed that they had to be eliminated by natural selection. 74 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,000 He believed that wars resulted in caused natural selection 75 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 --that the elimination of ''inferior'' races was the law of nature and that 76 00:06:43,001 --> 00:06:46,001 they would ''naturally'' die by natural selection. 77 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,000 For example, Darwinists supposed that Aborigines 78 00:06:52,001 --> 00:06:55,001 were a transitory race of ape-like creatures. 79 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,000 In our opinion, Aborigines are one of the human races God has created. 80 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:06,000 African-Americans, Japanese, Aborigines, Amerindians--these are all human races, 81 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:12,000 very normal, kind and pleasant people. 82 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Only their physical appearance differs, but not because any of them are ape-like. 83 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:23,000 What I don't understand is, how did Darwin's theory of evolution affect Hitler? 84 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:33,000 What is the connection? 85 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,000 As I said earlier, Hitler believed that the weak would perish and the strong would survive. 86 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 According to him, the German race was the strong race, 87 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:47,000 at the forefront of the evolution of humanity. 88 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,000 The other races were transitional species between humans and apes. 89 00:07:52,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Accordingly, this developed race would eliminate the other, 90 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:08,000 undeveloped animal-like beings by massacring them. 91 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:23,000 In your opinion, is Darwin responsible for all the modern wars in the world? 92 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Of course! Nations hold a secret philosophy. 93 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:34,000 They believe that countries not waging war would lose their strength. 94 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,000 This is nations' secret philosophy. Many leaders want to be at war, continuously and necessarily. 95 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,000 They believe that war advances human progress, 96 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 develops the minds and intelligence. 97 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Accordingly, they shed blood like a river. 98 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Then can we say as you suggest that Darwin's theory says that the strong will survive? 99 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Yes, Darwin says so. 100 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 And this is what creates a harsh environment. 101 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:09,000 However, the one who is right is strong. But according to Darwin, the strong is right. 102 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:15,000 This is exactly what the Imperialists and Fascists also claim. 103 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,000 A few months ago in France, there were severe struggles between young people and the police. 104 00:09:22,001 --> 00:09:27,001 Do you think Darwinism is the reason? 105 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Anyone who has undergone Darwinist education, 106 00:09:31,001 --> 00:09:33,001 automatically comes to think of himself 107 00:09:34,001 --> 00:09:39,001 as an animal that has come into being coincidentally. 108 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,000 He considers such feelings as 109 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:58,000 compassion, mercy, love, and respect as primitive, unreasonable emotions. 110 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Then you think that young people who display such aggressive behavior 111 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:22,000 feel no self-respect because of their incorrect Darwinist education? 112 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Of course. This is the consequence of a Darwinist, materialist, atheist education. 113 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Then can we say that the educational system in France must be changed? 114 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Not only in France! Atheist, materialist education 115 00:10:45,001 --> 00:10:47,001 should be removed throughout the entire world. 116 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,000 By ''removed'' I mean that the opposing view should also be taught. 117 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Yes, atheism and materialism should be taught, but so should idealism and creationism. 118 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,000 Students should decide for themselves which is right. 119 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,000 I don't want any unilateral education system. 120 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,000 All prohibitions should be abolished. 121 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:23,000 What would you tell biology teachers in France --they are totally wrong? 122 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 No, no! I would advise them to teach whatever they like 123 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 but meanwhile, to explain the opposite views 124 00:11:29,001 --> 00:11:30,001 so that students can decide for themselves what is right. 125 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Unilateral education is a fascist-leaning education. There should be no repressive education. 126 00:11:36,001 --> 00:11:41,001 There should be a free education. That's what I want. 127 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:50,000 And you think that education in France is not free? 128 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Of course not. Otherwise, why are my books being banned? 129 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,000 I mean, they claimed that these books had an ''atomic bomb effect.'' 130 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,000 They described it as a hurricane, 131 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,000 as an earthquake, 132 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:10,000 as a big assault to the history of French culture. 133 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:18,000 These are very exaggerated expressions. 134 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,000 This is a state prohibition imposed on youth. 135 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:32,000 Does this mean anything except fear the truth? 136 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,000 If the books were unreasonable, then so much fear would not be felt. 137 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,000 But they are so reasonable and effective that they imposed a prohibition. 138 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,000 In France, creationist books enjoy a great amount of sales. 139 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,000 They have always existed in schools, and in school libraries. 140 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,000 But only my books proved to be astonishing and very effective. 141 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,000 That's why there was an embargo on them. 142 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,000 They teach Darwinism and I teach this, 143 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:13,000 so that young people can learn both and decide for themselves, freely. 144 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Also, fearing an idea only makes that idea stronger. 145 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Now that this book is banned, young French people have not ceased examining it. 146 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:32,000 They have access to the Internet, and now, the number of hits is increasing 147 00:13:33,001 --> 00:13:39,001 --especially the number of hits from France. 148 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,000 Also, those who know the information in the book can give it to those who don't. 149 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:50,000 This has made the prohibition of the book more interesting 150 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,000 --and banning the book is an advertisement for it, 151 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,000 which shows the strength of the idea given in the book. 152 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Have you seen anyone offer a scientific criticism of the book, 153 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,000 who claims that there were scientific errors in certain points? 154 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 They cannot say that, because it provides the facts from the beginning to end. 155 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:17,000 I don't say that the Darwin's Origin of Species should not be taught or should be banned. 156 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:23,000 I just give a response to it. 157 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,000 And if my book is incorrect, then they should do the same. 158 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:33,000 They can't reach any conclusions by banning or burning the book. 159 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:43,000 In France, it is said that your book is dangerous, which is why it's being banned. 160 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:49,000 The book's accuracy has undergone a test in France. 161 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,000 It was sent to a scientific institution, which reported that 162 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:09,000 it's really very effective and has the power to affect people who read it objectively. 163 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:17,000 We see a lot of photographs of terrorism and warfare. Are these crimes all committed by Darwinism? 164 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:25,000 Darwinism is a philosophy that suggests struggle as a secret law. 165 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:34,000 It's an idea suggesting that the weak will perish and the strong will survive. 166 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Then there should be power, and for power, guns and bombs 167 00:15:41,001 --> 00:15:45,001 and terror and violence are being used. 168 00:15:46,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Here, there is photograph of Hitler's Nazi concentration camps. Is the reason Darwin again? 169 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,000 Darwin was the person who influenced Hitler. 170 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:16,000 Hitler was a very ignorant man, a corporal who was influenced by all the books he read. 171 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Consequently, because of the scientific shallowness of his time, 172 00:16:24,001 --> 00:16:29,001 because of the weakness of technological tools, 173 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:37,000 he thought that Darwin was really correct and he practiced Darwinism within the social system. 174 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,000 And the result of this was a terrible massacre. 175 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:48,000 Especially within the last decade or two, all branches of science have improved greatly. 176 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Every improvement, and each fossil uncovered, have revealed that Darwinist ideas' were wrong. 177 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:04,000 Here in this book is a photograph of the 9/11 attacks. 178 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:16,000 This has affected me a lot, to have such a photograph in a book about fossils. 179 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:27,000 Do you say that Darwin was again the cause of these attacks? 180 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:33,000 Darwin had the effect of a match in the world. 181 00:17:34,001 --> 00:17:40,001 He offered the fire to humanity, the means to burn. 182 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,000 When a person is an atheist, a materialist, a Darwinist, 183 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,000 he does not consider other people as human beings, 184 00:17:50,001 --> 00:17:53,001 but as animals that have undergone evolution. 185 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Consequently, he needs to treat a human being as an animal. 186 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:04,000 How does he treat an animal that has come into being coincidentally 187 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,000 and which will cease to exist in time? That is how they treat a human being. 188 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,000 But I say that a human is a very superior being created by God. 189 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000 He will live for eternity. 190 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:24,000 Because God created him he should be treated with love and respect. 191 00:18:25,001 --> 00:18:28,001 Peace, brotherhood, love; 192 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:40,000 these are good feelings arising from a morality created by God, and it pleases Him. 193 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Everybody knows that in such a society, no anarchy prevails. 194 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:55,000 If we place them side by side, can we say that an ape and a human being are essentially the same? 195 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:02,000 An ape is a separate being created by God, and a human is a totally different being. 196 00:19:03,001 --> 00:19:09,001 An acacia tree and a human being are totally different; 197 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,000 bugs and humans are different; 198 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,000 so are apes and humans totally different beings. 199 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,000 They are all different beings. 200 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Do you think apes and humans derive from the same race? 201 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:36,000 Human is a being that is individually created and ape is also a being individually created. 202 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:44,000 So for you, every living thing is individually created? 203 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Exactly. But also, I can prove it. 204 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:57,000 Today, we have hundreds of skulls of primates, apes, monkeys and chimpanzees, 205 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,000 fossils dating back to 30 million years, 70 million years, 80 million years, 206 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:10,000 which have not gone through the slightest change. 207 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 The skulls they claim to be related to human beings are fraudulent ones 208 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,000 like Piltdown Man and Java Man. 209 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,000 The facts are the reverse of what many people believe. 210 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,000 There are detailed explanations in my book. 211 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Does this also hold true for plants? 212 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Of course. If you read my book attentively, you will see this. 213 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Did the very same trees exist two million years ago? 214 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,000 Of course. 215 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,000 When we put fossils side by side with those same species living today, 216 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,000 they are the same --to the extent of even minute details. 217 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Also, this Atlas will be seven volumes. 218 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:20,000 I have already completed the third and fourth volumes, 219 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:28,000 and am now working on the fifth, sixth and seventh volumes, using thousands of photographs. 220 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,000 To speak of France again: 221 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,000 Your book has been banned by the Ministry of Education. 222 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Can we say that French politicians have found your theory wrong? 223 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Does this mean that they dislike it? 224 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,000 Not because they disliked it. 225 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,000 They banned it because they liked it. 226 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,000 If they found it insignificant, why should they ban it? 227 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000 They banned it because it is very effective 228 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000 and because they believe it is correct. 229 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:17,000 So, it is banned because it reveals the facts, and that we --the French-- avoid those facts? 230 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Of course. 231 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Because they do not know what kind of changes 232 00:22:25,001 --> 00:22:29,001 these truths will make in people, this causes a social fear. 233 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,000 That is because, these views mean the collapse of Darwinism and the end of materialism. 234 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:42,000 They avoid from the question of ''What will replace these views?'' 235 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:48,000 This is not an estimation; that is what they tell themselves. 236 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,000 They ask themselves, ''If this truth becomes widespread among youth, 237 00:22:54,000 --> 00:23:01,000 how would they interpret their belief in God, and what would its consequences be for France?'' 238 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,000 This is why they consider it dangerous. 239 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Of course, this is what I've heard from the press. I haven't heard it directly from them. 240 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:19,000 It is one thing when people accept something individually, 241 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,000 and different when they accept it as state policy. 242 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:29,000 I explained the reason for its rejection as state policy, 243 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:41,000 but it is very difficult to find any individual who will reject it. 244 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:48,000 People accept this deep in their conscious, but many hesitate to express it aloud. 245 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,000 It was the same here in Turkey, when my books were distributed throughout the country. 246 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,000 People could hardly begin to find a professor who will defend Darwinism 247 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:06,000 and who would give a conference on this topic. Now, they have a great problem. 248 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:15,000 If we ask a question about your theory --to Alain Juppe for example-- 249 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:28,000 do you think he'll agree with you, since he sent you a letter of appreciation? 250 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:34,000 I assume that he'll at least defend the mutual consideration of ideas. 251 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:41,000 I assume he'll defend the position that it's wrong to put pressure on ideas 252 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:48,000 and each opposing idea should be taken into consideration. 253 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,000 But I cannot speak on his behalf, of course. 254 00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:01,000 You received letters of appreciation from France, didn't you? 255 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Yes, a number. 256 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:11,000 We have information that French Masonic Lodges 257 00:25:12,001 --> 00:25:19,001 have decided to ban this Atlas in France. 258 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:28,000 You sent the Atlas of Creation to France. Are you planning to send other books to France? 259 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,000 I think this one is sufficient and satisfactory. 260 00:25:33,001 --> 00:25:38,001 When people receive the first volume of the Atlas of Creation, 261 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,000 they can access my other books on the Internet. 262 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:50,000 The second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth volumes of the Atlas will also become available. 263 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Eventually. You've prepared new volumes of the Atlas of Creation, haven't you? 264 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,000 Yes, I will publish them in Turkish. 265 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:08,000 How many volumes will there be? 266 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,000 Seven. 267 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Is the reason why you won't send them to France 268 00:26:16,001 --> 00:26:20,001 because they are accessible on the Internet? 269 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:31,000 Yes, and also the publisher wouldn't want to spend a lot of money. 270 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Does it cost a lot to ship the book? 271 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:44,000 Yes, but this promotion also brought them a lot of income. 272 00:26:45,001 --> 00:26:52,001 After this promotion, they took thousands of orders. 273 00:26:53,000 --> 00:27:05,000 The second, third and fourth volumes, will soon be accessed through the Internet 274 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:12,000 in many languages such as French, English, 275 00:27:13,001 --> 00:27:19,001 German,Russian, Chinese. But in the form of a book . . . 276 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:26,000 even the U.S. budget would not be enough for it. 277 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:41,000 Does your organization cover all the costs of the book now? 278 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:52,000 Yes, my publisher does. But I know that they made more profits, 279 00:27:53,001 --> 00:28:02,001 because this promotion has facilitated their sales. 280 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:15,000 In France, they've said that you are supported 281 00:28:16,001 --> 00:28:28,001 by the Creationists in the U.S. Do they also provide financial support? 282 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:40,000 No. They also do not have such a power. What the publisher has done here is quite normal. 283 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,000 Every publisher employs such promotional copies. 284 00:28:47,001 --> 00:28:51,001 On the other hand, the area where I am most effective is the Internet. 285 00:28:52,000 --> 00:29:08,000 We mentioned Saudi Arabia, the U.S.A. So you have no financial support from abroad? 286 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,000 No. If any foreign financial support existed, 287 00:29:13,001 --> 00:29:16,001 this would be immediately obvious. But I would not accept this. 288 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:26,000 I do not like such awkward, mysterious things. I do not like such things on principle. 289 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,000 Besides, if Saudi Arabia would do this, they would do this on their own account. 290 00:29:32,001 --> 00:29:36,001 Nobody prevents Saudi Arabia. 291 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:43,000 This book is a work of intelligence, a work of devotion, a work of heart and a work of faith. 292 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:50,000 These are not things that can be influenced by money. 293 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:56,000 USA is a country that advocates Darwinism. 294 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:07,000 It's the official state policy. Why should America support me? This would be very funny. 295 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,000 If they intended to support me, they would first change their official Darwinist policy. 296 00:30:12,001 --> 00:30:15,001 Then, this would be convincing. 297 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:23,000 With their prevailing Darwinist stance, why should they support me? 298 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Creationists in the United States do not have as strong a structure as is believed. 299 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,000 They have been working for years, but their efforts 300 00:30:34,001 --> 00:30:36,001 have not proven to be effective in the United States. 301 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,000 They did not limit their efforts to their own country; 302 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,000 they tried to address the entire world, but that didn't prove to be effective either. 303 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000 Given their financial resources, they do their best. 304 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:56,000 If they want to find a representative, they would pick one in the United States. 305 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:03,000 Why would they choose me, in Turkey? Even a child can understands the reason underlying this. 306 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:13,000 Perhaps you don't want to work with the Creationists in the United States. 307 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:23,000 No, no. I do want to, of course. But the style and the methods I employ to prove my views 308 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:33,000 are very different from those used in the United States,and they are very strong and impressive. 309 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,000 The Creationists in the United States have been working for years. They also have books in France, 310 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:44,000 but they are not so effective. Their influence is minor. 311 00:31:46,000 --> 00:32:06,000 Is the Science Research Foundation allied with foundations in the United States? 312 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:12,000 Not directly with them, of course. But the Science Research Foundation 313 00:32:13,001 --> 00:32:19,001 (BAV) may cooperate with every foundation in the world that is conducting scientific research. 314 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,000 The nature of the foundation does not matter. 315 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,000 As long as it defends science, it's making a study 316 00:32:29,001 --> 00:32:33,001 of cultural research. Then of course it approves. 317 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,000 You are saying that you wrote more than 250 books. To whom are these book addressed? 318 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,000 To everyone, all over the world. 319 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:51,000 What message would you like to convey to all those people? 320 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:59,000 Love, peace, brotherhood, love of God. 321 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:06,000 What is the danger in Darwinism? Is it something that can bring the end of the world? 322 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:15,000 It used to be. I don't think that it will be a danger from now on. 323 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,000 Why not? 324 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,000 Because Darwinism is over and done with in intellectual terms. 325 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:33,000 Do you think Darwin is responsible for all this? 326 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,000 Darwinism and Marxism, of course--Marxist thought derived from Darwinism, 327 00:33:40,001 --> 00:33:44,001 Fascist thought derived from Darwinism. 328 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:53,000 Darwinism by itself is not responsible. Darwin was only the father of these ideas. 329 00:33:54,000 --> 00:34:01,000 The reason behind the books being sent to France 330 00:34:02,001 --> 00:34:11,001 is to share these ideas with French scientists. 331 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,000 Yes, Yes, that is true. 332 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000 Why they are sent, then? 333 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,000 For the facts to emerge, for the truth to be realized. 334 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,000 In the end, for the entire world to improve, for peace, fraternity and love to spread. 335 00:34:26,001 --> 00:34:28,001 This is what they provide. 336 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:35,000 BAV supports democracy and an enlightened Turkey. 337 00:34:36,001 --> 00:34:42,001 Its thoughts are based on freedom, it supports freedom. 338 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:50,000 It supports Turkey's unity and is against divisiveness. 339 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,000 It rejects ideologies such as Fascism, Communism 340 00:34:55,001 --> 00:35:00,001 and struggles intellectually against these ideologies. 341 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,000 It makes scientific researches, organizes conferences.